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Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Oct 31 @ 10:21 AM ET
Peter Tessier: Jets look to spook the Wild tonight Can the Jets build on the Pittsburgh game and take that success on the road to St. Paul?
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 11:14 AM ET
The last few games have made the misguided critics scatter into the woodwork like cockroaches when the lights are turned on. That won't stop them from coming out again the minute the Jets lose a game or have an off-night.

Right now we have a lineup that works well. Lowry and Perreault will only make it even stronger on those bottom two lines. We also now have reliable depth in Lemieux who can fill in at any time to give guys like Matthais, Hendricks, and Armia a rest once in a while. Depth on D as well . If the second line can start to click then the Jets are really going to be a force to contend with. Its a new look faster Jets which is what is needed in a quicker paced NHL. Gone are all the slow plug guys like Thor, Dano, Peluso....good riddance to them.

Its an upside down NHL right now. Who would have thought Vegas, NJ, Colorado , LA, Vancouver would be near the top of their divisions while teams like Montreal, Chicago, Edmonton, and NYR are all struggling near the bottom.

Go Jets !
Muskwa
Location: Somewhere down the lazy river
Joined: 03.26.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:15 AM ET
Vegas could also use a guy like Dano. If we shipped him and Hutch together might be able to get a higher pick. The way things are looking now we could end up having to put him on waivers and lose him for nothing.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 11:48 AM ET
Vegas could also use a guy like Dano. If we shipped him and Hutch together might be able to get a higher pick. The way things are looking now we could end up having to put him on waivers and lose him for nothing.
- Muskwa


Dano might be worth a best a 7th or 8th round pick. Hutch might get a 4th rounder. Hutch and Chariot combined and you might get a 2nd rounder though. Petan could use a home. He and Hutch combined could be worth a 2nd round pick as well. Vegas has got lots of picks so it might be easier for them to part with a 2nd round pick. I wonder what it might take to get a guy like James Neal.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 31 @ 11:58 AM ET
Vegas could also use a guy like Dano. If we shipped him and Hutch together might be able to get a higher pick. The way things are looking now we could end up having to put him on waivers and lose him for nothing.
- Muskwa


Nobody could use those two. Honestly if you can just get them out of the system for nothing you're ahead. Perrault may still have value and should be moved. Connor does not deserve to be sent back to the Moose anytime soon.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 31 @ 12:43 PM ET
Dano needs to be moved if he’s not gonna play. All he’s done is produce at this level, and after being the centerpiece of 2(!) trades, and the Jets giving up a pick to keep him, it would be a hilariously Jets move to lose him for nothing on waivers.

I’m amazed Petan hasn’t asked for a trade. He’s being screwed.

Hendricks, luckily, hasn’t had enough ice time to really start to drag in this team. Unfortunately the PK is a ticking time bomb with Hendricks, Tanev, and Kulikov featuring regularly and the system calling for absolutely 0 pressure and always allowing clean zone entries.

Also, Hutch to Vegas!

Side also, Helle is still the man.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 31 @ 12:44 PM ET
Nobody could use those two. Honestly if you can just get them out of the system for nothing you're ahead. Perrault may still have value and should be moved. Connor does not deserve to be sent back to the Moose anytime soon.
- bikeguy99


Perreault has a ton of value. So much that we won’t get anything close to it back in a trade. He’s a top line forward making tweeter money to hold up our 3rd line. Lowry hasn’t even been with him yet, and he should already thank him for his goals.
JimmyJet
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 31 @ 1:11 PM ET
To me the fact that they've allowed 2 goals against or less in 6 of the last 8 games is the real story here.

With the O that we have if we keep the other team to 2 goals or less we're walking away with points most nights. To back that point up we have points in 7 of those 8 games. We only lost the game where we gave up 5 goals in regulation.

Go Jets Go!
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 31 @ 3:11 PM ET
Perreault has a ton of value. So much that we won’t get anything close to it back in a trade. He’s a top line forward making tweeter money to hold up our 3rd line. Lowry hasn’t even been with him yet, and he should already thank him for his goals.
- Rexypoo


Not doubting that Perreault has skill. Just that he hasn't had a ton of chemistry, health has not been on his side, and Connor has thrived in his absence. Would moving him to the highest bidder and freeing up 4yr 15.6M be a bad thing? He certainly adds depth. I'm just looking ahead to the potential signings coming down the pipe is all.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 3:34 PM ET
Not doubting that Perreault has skill. Just that he hasn't had a ton of chemistry, health has not been on his side, and Connor has thrived in his absence. Would moving him to the highest bidder and freeing up 4yr 15.6M be a bad thing? He certainly adds depth. I'm just looking ahead to the potential signings coming down the pipe is all.
- bikeguy99


As horribly wrong and stubborn as he is on everything else, I have to agree with Rexy on this one. Perreault is a valuable member of the Jets and would fetch a high value to a team, especially MTL. Right now the goal is to make the playoffs so I don't think trading him is a good move. If I were Chevy and was shopping around for the perfect third line player I would want a player just like Perreault so why trade him. He will be great on the third line as a defensive player with big offensive upside, and an asset on the PP. We also don't need to free up salary cap just yet as we are more than fine for now. We are not the Hawks or Philly.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 31 @ 4:06 PM ET
As horribly wrong and stubborn as he is on everything else, I have to agree with Rexy on this one. Perreault is a valuable member of the Jets and would fetch a high value to a team, especially MTL. Right now the goal is to make the playoffs so I don't think trading him is a good move. If I were Chevy and was shopping around for the perfect third line player I would want a player just like Perreault so why trade him. He will be great on the third line as a defensive player with big offensive upside, and an asset on the PP. We also don't need to free up salary cap just yet as we are more than fine for now. We are not the Hawks or Philly.
- jetsnation

I have to disagree a little. I do believe there would be interest in Perrault but his value will not be as high as most Jets fans think. This is a guy who has never put up big numbers and hasn't played a full season since he was thirteen.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
Dano needs to be moved if he’s not gonna play. All he’s done is produce at this level, and after being the centerpiece of 2(!) trades, and the Jets giving up a pick to keep him, it would be a hilariously Jets move to lose him for nothing on waivers.

I’m amazed Petan hasn’t asked for a trade. He’s being screwed.

Hendricks, luckily, hasn’t had enough ice time to really start to drag in this team. Unfortunately the PK is a ticking time bomb with Hendricks, Tanev, and Kulikov featuring regularly and the system calling for absolutely 0 pressure and always allowing clean zone entries.

Also, Hutch to Vegas!

Side also, Helle is still the man.

- Rexypoo


Dano has 11 points in his last 44 games? In what world does that equal the statement "all he's done is produce"? Dano seems to have peaked at 19, all he's done is go down hill from there. It happen and he was absolutely not the centre piece of any trade! That's like saying jimmy Carson was the centre piece in a certain la kings / oilers trade that made some headlines back in the day.
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Oct 31 @ 4:15 PM ET
Dano has 11 points in his last 44 games? In what world does that equal the statement "all he's done is produce"? Dano seems to have peaked at 19, all he's done is go down hill from there. It happen and he was absolutely not the centre piece of any trade! That's like saying jimmy Carson was the centre piece in a certain la kings / oilers trade that made some headlines back in the day.
- Ross77

Center piece of that trade (Ladd I think) was the 1st round pick Logan Stanley I believe
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:20 PM ET
Dano has 11 points in his last 44 games? In what world does that equal the statement "all he's done is produce"? Dano seems to have peaked at 19, all he's done is go down hill from there. It happen and he was absolutely not the centre piece of any trade! That's like saying jimmy Carson was the centre piece in a certain la kings / oilers trade that made some headlines back in the day.
- Ross77


The door was wide open but I couldn't be bothered in even going there. I do feel somewhat sorry for Petan the same way I felt sorry for Dale Derkatch and Robbie Schremp. Talented players but the size and strength issues couldn't be overcome that are needed in the NHL. Some are just so talented they overcome it...Gaudreau, Fleury, Martin St. Louis but these guys don't come often. We all hoped for Petan but he just wasn't quite good enough. Maybe a new home will help. Maybe just another year of experience and strengthening on the Moose. He is close but just not quite there yet.

I also predict that it wont be long before Hendricks becomes a fan favourite. He certainly has become a favourite amongst the Jet players.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 31 @ 8:51 PM ET
Dano has 11 points in his last 44 games? In what world does that equal the statement "all he's done is produce"? Dano seems to have peaked at 19, all he's done is go down hill from there. It happen and he was absolutely not the centre piece of any trade! That's like saying jimmy Carson was the centre piece in a certain la kings / oilers trade that made some headlines back in the day.
- Ross77


He produced at an insanely high rate for the minutes he got. I also distinctly remember seeing a lot of Blue Jackets fans complaining about the trade because Dano was producing at the same rate as Saad at 19.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 31 @ 8:53 PM ET
Center piece of that trade (Ladd I think) was the 1st round pick Logan Stanley I believe
- sparky1957


Which is hilarious in and of itself. Imagine if Dano gets waived. It will literally be: Andrew Ladd, a 2nd, and a 3rd for Logan Stanley (nothing) and the right to pay half of Dano’s salary.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 31 @ 9:59 PM ET
I have to disagree a little. I do believe there would be interest in Perrault but his value will not be as high as most Jets fans think. This is a guy who has never put up big numbers and hasn't played a full season since he was thirteen.
- Ross77


Ya I don't think he would fetch more than a 2nd rounder at best. And I understand the cap isn't an issue right now, but i'm looking to upcoming signings like Trouba, Conner, Laine, Morrissey, and Hellebuyck all looking at BIG raises in the next season or two, and could see more value in having that 4.15M per season keeping this young group in tact, or at least helping. I am not hating on Perrault, just trying to look at the bigger picture. I don't think many Jets fans want to see those players go do to cap constraints.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Nov 1 @ 8:09 AM ET
Ya I don't think he would fetch more than a 2nd rounder at best. And I understand the cap isn't an issue right now, but i'm looking to upcoming signings like Trouba, Conner, Laine, Morrissey, and Hellebuyck all looking at BIG raises in the next season or two, and could see more value in having that 4.15M per season keeping this young group in tact, or at least helping. I am not hating on Perrault, just trying to look at the bigger picture. I don't think many Jets fans want to see those players go do to cap constraints.
- bikeguy99


There is absolutely no way Perreault would not fetch a first round pick. Probably one in the teens plus a prospect. Typically the value for these type of players at trade deadline is a first round pick , a prospect, and a conditional pick. This is what we got for Ladd, its what Pominville went for , also Anton Vermette. All three guys were just rentals. In my opinion I see Perreault's contract as actually pretty cap friendly in the recent rising salary binge.

I've read several articles on trade value over the last few years which basically spells out exactly what players and dmen are worth. Thats why I know Dano is worth nothing more than a 7th...if anything , Chariot a 3rd to 4th, and Petan might fetch a 3rd or 4th only because he is versatile.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Nov 1 @ 10:03 AM ET
Keep Perreault !
Dump Dano !
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Nov 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
Which is hilarious in and of itself. Imagine if Dano gets waived. It will literally be: Andrew Ladd, a 2nd, and a 3rd for Logan Stanley (nothing) and the right to pay half of Dano’s salary.
- Rexypoo

you will be eating your words when Stanley is on the team in a few years. He is only 19. defensemen take longer to develop usually
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Nov 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
Oh yea. We deserved the win last night on that brutal no goal call on Meyers. that should be reviewable IMHO
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Nov 1 @ 11:41 AM ET
you will be eating your words when Stanley is on the team in a few years. He is only 19. defensemen take longer to develop usually
- sparky1957


Hopefully Stanley will be a Jet in 2018-19 or 2019-2020. It's not as if many 1st rounders from his draft year are in the NHL.
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

Nov 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Why would we trade Perrault ? ... I'll take his 60 games/yr
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Dano & Petan ... I love the latter for what he did in the 2015 World Juniors - scoring a hat to enable Canada to play in (and ultimately win) the Gold ... he was tied with McDavid & Reinhart for tournament top pts ... but this ain't the Juniors anymore, Toto ... these two guys - I just can't understand what all the fuss is about ... the chance to shine has come and gone ... not everyone can play on the 1st or 2nd line ... thems the breaks ... life in the bigs
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FOR F_CKIN SURE THE STORY NOW IS 6-3-2 AND SITTING 2ND IN THE CENTRAL ... NOT ALLOWING MORE THAN 1 GOAL AGAINST (REG) IN LAST 4 GAMES - - ABSO-F_CKIN-LUTELY
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Give me the line-up we've been riding last 3 games - I'm in ... Perrault & Lowry back can only help
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So - now we have some real competition for starting spots on the roster ... excellent
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
There is absolutely no way Perreault would not fetch a first round pick. Probably one in the teens plus a prospect. Typically the value for these type of players at trade deadline is a first round pick , a prospect, and a conditional pick. This is what we got for Ladd, its what Pominville went for , also Anton Vermette. All three guys were just rentals. In my opinion I see Perreault's contract as actually pretty cap friendly in the recent rising salary binge.

I've read several articles on trade value over the last few years which basically spells out exactly what players and dmen are worth. Thats why I know Dano is worth nothing more than a 7th...if anything , Chariot a 3rd to 4th, and Petan might fetch a 3rd or 4th only because he is versatile.

- jetsnation


Hey i'm on the same page as you with all other mentioned players. Just differing values on Perrault, especially since the examples you chose to compare him with were all quite big regrets from the teams that gave up picks and prospects. But at the end of the day I just hope that the Jets can keep their young core of Morrissey, Laine, Connor, Hellebuyck, and potentially Trouba. With Ehlers, Scheiffle, Little, and Buff here for the long term, these remaining young players will make the difference between a cup run.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
you will be eating your words when Stanley is on the team in a few years. He is only 19. defensemen take longer to develop usually
- sparky1957


They really, really don’t. Trouba was 19, Morrissey 20/21, Myers 19/20 (only Stanley comparable to play more than 100 NHL games), Kulikov 19/20, Byfuglien 22 (drafted for size, bloomed late after being force fed minutes with Enstrom), and and Enstrom 22 (stayed over seas until he was already a top pairing dman). You could argue Chiarot and Poolman, but one has never been an nhl player and the other stayed in college. Even just using the Jets roster, Stanley looks like a bust.
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